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At the end of their rope

Amie Gray pointing to where the damage to her property is, which was snow covered over the weekend. JOHN BRANNEN - THE NEWS

Amie Gray pointing to where the damage to her property is, which was snow covered over the weekend.

Published on March 17, 2013
Published on March 17, 2013
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After numerous attempts for aid, family left with $12,000 bill from flooding

Topics :
Department of Highways , Emergency Management Office for the Province , Department of Environment , Dartmouth

DURHAM – For Jon and Amie Gray, their yard was a source of pride, a place for their kids to play and an enjoyable part of their property. Jon, who has lived on the property since 1985 took great care of the lawn, mowing, seeding and landscaping as necessary.

“Our two kids loved dirt biking up and down the driveway,” said Amie. “We just planted two maple trees in the yard last summer.”

But on Sept. 22, 2012, all that changed. Heavy rains and stormy conditions caused a brook on the edge of the property to overflow its banks and onto the lawn in a torrent of water.

“New culverts had just been put in place but weren’t enough to handle the flood,” said Amie, who woke up that day to a lawn that resembled a lake.

It was days before the waters finally receded but the landscape is now permanently changed. Gravel from the side of the road along with rocks and boulders now fill the Gray’s lawn. What was once lush green is now brown and rocky.

“We can’t do anything,” said Jon. “I can’t mow and every time it rains the brook that now flows through our yard fills up again. It’s an eyesore.”

A contractor went and offered an estimate of $12,000 to clean up the lawn of debris, though this doesn’t guarantee the overflowing wouldn’t happen again.

Since that fall, it has been an uphill battle for Jon and Amie to try and get the funds from provincial departments to help cover the damages.

“I called the Department of Highways since all the gravel in the yard came from the road,” said Amie. “They said they couldn’t help us.”

The pair was then directed to the Department of the Environment, which said costly permits would be needed to dam and pump the water from their lawn since it came from a brook near their house. Then, on Dec. 7, the Emergency Management Office for the Province issued a disaster financial assistance plan for those affected by the flooding on Sept. 22-24.

“We got the paperwork for this funding and talked with Charlie Parker who encouraged us to apply,” said Amie.

“We filled out the info, took pictures and even drove it to Dartmouth ourselves,” said Jon. “They called us two days later and said they couldn’t help us.”

Jon said the fund concluded the incident wasn’t a disaster, but erosion.

“I was shocked. I was under the impression a disaster happened suddenly and without warning while erosion was slow and expected.”

Stunned, they called Charlie Parker back and left a message with Peter MacKay. Neither could do much more to help.

“Why should we have to pay the $12,000?” they ask. “We didn’t do anything and the brook had never overflowed since I’ve been here,” said Jon.

Pictou West MLA Charlie Parker said he feels for the family, but because they didn’t meet the criteria for disaster relief, there’s little he can do.

“The criteria for to receive relief funding was set by the federal government,” said Parker. “It’s my understanding that there was no infrastructure damage so it didn’t qualify.”

Attempts to mitigate the damage on their own have been met with stern warnings from the Department of Environment.

“The department has told us to stay out of the brook,” Jon said. “[The Department of Environment] said if we so much as dip a tire in the brook they’d serve us a $5,000 fine. We don’t have that kind of money. We don’t know what else to do and need help.”

For now, they’re content that it has been fairly mild this winter and that there hopefully wont be a large melt to fill up the brook.

“We’re not sure we can wait until next fall,” said Amie. “Flooding may happen again; does that mean the costs will be $24,000? We can’t bear the thought.”

Parker said if some of the gravel on the Gray’s lawn came from the Department of Transportation, they may yet have a case.

“This is something that I was unaware of, but if this is the case, there may be compensation available,” he said, encouraging the family to get in touch with his office.

As for the two maple trees they planted in the yard this past summer, one has already succumbed to the brook that flows through their property.

“We’ve got a mess on our lawn,” said Jon. “We need help to get it back to right.”

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    jack
    - March 19, 2013 at 22:35:10

    If damage to living property is covered under household policies why did the govt start a fund to help those affected??? Why if - its okay for (taxpayers) to pay for damage to living quarters but not damage to land caused by the flooding.. I think the government should help all those suffering hardship caused by this flood -or nobody...

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      insurance agent
      - March 20, 2013 at 17:26:45

      There is no insurance available anywhere in Canada for damage resulting from a flood -- that is water that comes over the land from either a river/stream/brook or the ocean. You could have a hurricane and your house could have the roof ripped off and rain enter through the roof - you'd be covered. But if you have a hurricane or river flood and water fills your basement, you're not covered. No insurance company in Canada offers flood insurance. So if you have a house that gets flooded, your only option is to hope for disaster assistance from some level of government. In this particular case, I don't think disaster assistance would apply as the house is not affected, only a lawn.

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    home owner
    - March 19, 2013 at 13:53:45

    oh come on.do u really think that the taxpayers of ns should have to pay for your lawn.get out with a little elbow grease .and pick the rocks of your lawn.and get in a small machine to push it into a pile..my husband and i lanscaped every inch of out property with our own arms and back.and it was the only time we did not see family and friends.

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    Green Hill
    - March 19, 2013 at 11:06:29

    I was also reading this story about these people's yard, it's very sad to hear about, I went by this yard and it is a terrible mess with an extreme amount of gravel and rocks, the comment made about family bonding and going out to rack it and fixing it themselves, well obviously this person didn't see it and if they did would not likly even ettemped to help them, for there not a person with compassion. Easy to say do by themselves but with this disaster it is something that will need machinery to do the work. No it is not there home that was effected but it is still apart of their lives that was. Seeing an eye sore like that every day would be like effecting there home. I see how they disagree with it being erosion because that happens over time they been there for 28 years with nothing happening, this happened over night. Plus for them to pay 12.000 on there own to fix this is crazy they shouldn't have to it is a disaster and should have help along with others who have had this happen to them. They pay their taxes and likely have insurance but no one wants to do anything when something like this happens to the little guy. But have someone part of the govt happen to them and see how quick it fixed. I feel for these people as well as the others. The ones who make comments about these guys who need help Likly have money or just have nothing to do but be negative about everything. I think they should keep fighting along with the others to get help rally together speak up don't let it go, you can win. Good luck to the Grays and others, go futher I will watch for you and watch in the paper and news to see you all get help. Don't let anyone get you down, you can do it. Good luck.

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    Kate
    - March 18, 2013 at 17:30:49

    The flooding in Sept was extreme with a lot of roadways & areas that do not normally flood subjected to a great amount of flash flooding. Landscaping is not the responsibility of the taxpayers. Had your home been affected then the homeowners policy should have been able to cover repairs. While you may not like the look of the yard, it really doesn't affect your life to the point you can't live in your home. Maybe some family bonding time with a few rakes would go a long way to cleaning the lawn & being able to mow again.

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    JLM
    - March 18, 2013 at 16:42:18

    While I feel bad for these folks whose lawn was ruined by the flood, it says very clearly on the NS disaster assistance website: "If you have uninsurable damages to your home, small business or non-profit organization, you may be eligible for assistance." Sad to say, damages to your yard, no matter how nice it may have been, are quite different than damanges to your HOME. The government can ill-afford to pay everyone whose yards are ruined by flooding, snow, etc. etc.

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    Regina
    - March 18, 2013 at 15:36:31

    I feel bad for the homeowners, as I have also lost a lot of things in a spring flood last year in my basement. I have also dealt with our Dept. of Transportaion experts in PC trying to get reimbursed for just one of the SIXTEEN mailboxes their snowplows destroyed, even after each one was erected exactly to the millimeter to their specifications, No luck. Also the time there was a huge section of pavement that was sticking up out of the road for months that snagged and near ripped off my front end, still no luck, they aren't responsible they say. It also shows you that they threatened you a huge fine for as much as even dipping a tire in the water, NS alone has a 500 page book stocked full of these fines and strict rules regarding anything environmental, as well as does every province and territory, on top of strict federal laws that people think is being completely gutted with their ill informed Idle protests. You have just found out how completely wrong they are by being threatened action against you for the slightest attempt to touch your own property, let alone anyone elses. The new law relaxed and redefined small portage passageways and clarification on building docks, and that's all that was changed. Quite easy to look it up. Again, I feel sorry for you, and again, the complete lack of help from our local provincial mp's.

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    confused
    - March 17, 2013 at 22:59:04

    This is a poorly written story. It started out fine and I understand that damages ocurred, but I got lost shortly there after. An estimate of 24k means nothing. Is the estimate correct? Is TIR responsible for the damages? Are the homeowners proposing to alter the watercourse in some way? And the final big question...is this a TIR infrastructue question or a planning issue (ie flood plain issue). I consistently see homes being constructed in the County near watercourses with no flood plain restrictions imposed. This may not be the case in this story.

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      taxpayer
      - March 19, 2013 at 12:31:09

      An excellent point re. flood plain and poor planning decisions. I can't wait to see how much we taxpayers will have to fork out the next time the East River overflows its banks and floods the trailer park in Blue Acres built on that island. Idiocy at its finest.

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    lyons brook resident
    - March 17, 2013 at 22:33:11

    We had a ditch overflow in the September rain storm and it carved a chunk out of our yard. It did not affect our house. THAT is the key issue. If it had affected your house, then it would be a flood affecting your primary residence and you'd get disaster assistance. Ours was also classed erosion and there's nothing we can do about it - it sucks as it makes our lawn look terrible. I have a neighbour who loaned me a tractor and I used that throughout October to put things back in order but I won't get a cent for my efforts as it didn't affect the house. A guy I spoke with at EMO said it would be the same issue if my property was on the coast and we had a big storm and I lost a bunch of land to erosion. So long as it doesn't touch the house, they can't do anything. Hopefully you can get some folks together in Durham or the surrounding area to pitch in and help put things back in order for you.

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      johnny smoke
      - March 18, 2013 at 09:09:53

      Your explanation while no doubt factually correct leaves much to be desired as to the response of the various government departments who exist to help taxpayers. 'They exist not to read rules that are a mile long from books that can barely be lifted by the ordinary person. Each and every day in THE News we see pictures of our elected officials suggesting that we call for assistance for this and that and many other items. What happens when we call, well we get some bureaucrats reading from some large rule book all the reasons why it cannot be done. Next time my suggestion would be do not even waste your time consulting with any government department, they have no intention of wasting their time and money considering your needs they only look after their own.

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      taxpayer
      - March 19, 2013 at 12:28:39

      Do you know how much our taxes would go up if every person that had land changed by an overflowing stream applied for disaster relief? That would be insanity at its finest.

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